tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521072265640427072.post3841192864822397889..comments2023-12-30T06:36:11.381-05:00Comments on Atheist Physics Teacher: Genesis 9 & 10jdkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15088370638675249900noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521072265640427072.post-79236300660737980292009-07-28T19:07:23.234-04:002009-07-28T19:07:23.234-04:00The "curse of Ham" was used as justifica...The "curse of Ham" was used as justification for black slavery in the US. Christian slave traders claimed (as did later Jim Crow southerners) that black skinned people were descendants of Ham, and therefore recipients of this curse. I guess if God curses you, that means it's okay for white folks to own you?<br /><br />This "morality" gets hard to follow. Notice that Ham walking in on drunk-naked dad is the one who gets cursed, not drunk-naked dad (again like the Lot story).Angie Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04739748828902693432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521072265640427072.post-68156573388939712542009-07-25T11:44:39.450-04:002009-07-25T11:44:39.450-04:00Mark, I absolutely agree. Perhaps the Israelites ...Mark, I absolutely agree. Perhaps the Israelites conquering the Canaanites was a true historical event, and the writers of the bible included this curse to justify it. What disturbs me, however, are the moral implications of this story. <br /><br />How is it moral for Canaan to be cursed for Ham's sin? What does this say about the "fairness" of God?jdkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15088370638675249900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3521072265640427072.post-62816232554140784012009-07-25T00:56:59.951-04:002009-07-25T00:56:59.951-04:00I'm certainly no scholar, but if I recall, Jos...I'm certainly no scholar, but if I recall, Joshua conquers Canaan pretty handily. Issues of nakedness / morality aside, it seems like Noah is prophectically cursing Ham's son (not sure why the son instead of the father) to foreshadow the later fall of Canaan. <br /><br />When you get to the story of Lot, I believe there's something similar. The incestuous offspring of Lot become the nations of Moab and Ammon - also sinful and defeated spiritually and militarily by the Israelites. <br /><br />Perhaps it's nicely setup so you can point to the story and be like "Now, kids, THAT'S why we don't like the Canaanites! Back to work!"Mark Westonnoreply@blogger.com